Level of Participation in Career Orientation for Children and Grandchildren (Unit =



I admit that I get more irritable with my family these days, especially when I see them tired. Luckily, my children and grandchildren understand me, so they just laugh when I scold them. But that being said, I rarely say harsh words to them.

Source: Male, 69 years old, poor health

Similarly, identify conflicts between the elderly and their families.

According to the status of social welfare beneficiaries, it also shows that the level of discord with family members of beneficiaries and non-beneficiaries is quite similar (Table 3.3). However, according to the social identity theory, this result reflects that the family life of the elderly who benefit from social welfare seems to be "more peaceful" than that of the elderly who do not benefit, because they have a lower GPA of 0.19 points.

3.2. Impact on family

The above-mentioned friendly relationships with relatives are the premise to help the elderly find jobs, orient their careers, advise their children/grandchildren on how to overcome difficulties, reconcile family conflicts and make important decisions in the house. However, a part of this population group does not participate in the above activities and this may be the reason why they feel their position and role have declined.

3.2.1. Guidance and advice for children and grandchildren

To measure the influence of the elderly having jobs through job orientation activities for their children and grandchildren, the topic designed a scale with 4 different levels, in which 1 is "Completely true", 2 is "Mostly true", 3 is "Somewhat true" and 4 is "Not true" 5 . Survey data shows that many of them always perform well as the leader in the family, but there are also some who give up that role.

According to the above scale of influence, up to 25.6% of employed elderly people admit that they are " completely right " in orienting their children/grandchildren's careers. However, up to 12.1% do not do this, with the highest rate being in the 65-69 age group at 15.0%, because they see that their children/grandchildren are more mature, know how to consider and orient their careers, or because their children/grandchildren have moved out of their households... This may be the reason for the decline in the role of a group of employed elderly people.



5 This scale was used by Linda Waite and Aniruddha Das (2010) to measure the elderly's perception of mental comfort when participating in common family, social and production activities.


However, the above reality is not an isolated phenomenon in Nam Tu Liem District, Hanoi City, but is consistent with the research results of Le Ngoc Lan and colleagues (2011), as well as Tran Thi Ngoc Bich and colleagues (2016). Accordingly, the elderly always perform well in the role of guiding their children/grandchildren, because "the elderly are a treasure trove of experience". However, the difference in ideology also makes the elderly need to re-establish their position, thereby gradually reducing their intervention role. This is further demonstrated through the research of Denis Mannaerts (2016, pp. 19 - 16), according to which, the change in family organization models in countries around the world has created a change in the position and role of the elderly in the direction of gradually reducing intervention in the lives of the following generations. Moreover, according to the PVS excerpt in Le Duy Mai Phuong's study (2014), " Oh my, now when I bring up those (advices), he doesn't listen ." Therefore, many employed elderly people in Nam Tu Liem District, Hanoi also gradually reduce their role in intervening with their children/grandchildren.

Thus, according to the theory of social identity, social position, and social role, this means that the elderly have jobs and fulfill their role well in their family. Although the maturity of their children/grandchildren is a positive factor in sharing pressure with them, it also makes a part of this population group feel their self-worth decline, especially for the group aged 65 - 69.

Table 3.4. Level of participation in career orientation for children and grandchildren (Unit =

%)




Completely

correct

Correct part

much

Correct part

little

Are not

correct

P


Age

60 - 64

29.2

29.2

29.2

12.5


**

65 - 69

17.9

33.5

33.5

15.0

≥ 70

30.9

28.1

33.1

7.9

Sex

Male

27.4

34.8

27.8

10.0

**

Female

24.0

26.4

35.6

14.0


Health

Good

6.1

59.1

28.8

6.1


*

Normal

28.3

24.7

33.9

13.1

Weak

31.5

33.3

22.2

13.0

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Level of Participation in Career Orientation for Children and Grandchildren (Unit =



Beneficiary

Social Security

Have

33.8

27.9

27.0

11.3

*

Are not

19.6

32.2

35.5

12.7

Total

25.6

30.4

31.9

12.1


N (480)

123

146

153

58


Note: * = P < 0.05; ** = P< 0.1; *** = P> 0.1;

Source: Survey results in Nam Tu Liem District, Hanoi, 2019

According to the above table, the career orientation for children/grandchildren of the employed elderly is related to different social groups by gender (if P < 0.1 is accepted, it means accepting the error of the conclusions can be up to 10%). Accordingly, the male group plays a better role than the female group. The rate of admitting that the career orientation for children/grandchildren of this population group is "completely correct" is 27.4%, while the corresponding rate of the female group is 24.0% (Table 3.4).

This means that, in the context of family culture and, more broadly, the general cultural context of the whole society in Vietnam, male elderly people are often placed in the central position of the family, have a higher voice and prestige, so they are better able to perform the role of career guidance for their children/grandchildren than female elderly people and their guidance is often followed by their children/grandchildren. This reality creates a relatively different social identity between the two groups of elderly people mentioned above.

Similarly, identification of employed older persons by different health social groups also showed that this variable was associated with job orientation for children/grandchildren (P < 0.05). However, the implementation of this role was not uniform. Older persons with poor health were the group that performed the role better than those with normal or good health. The rate of admitting that performing this job was “completely correct” was up to 31.5%, higher than the other two groups (Table 3.4).

Explaining from the perspective of social position theory, social role shows that this reality may be because the elderly with poor health need to find a " way " to enhance their own value in the family, avoid " being labeled as dependent ", and at the same time gather their children/grandchildren into the living environment they want to create. Therefore, they use life experience as " capital " to ensure a high position in the family. That way of thinking and doing becomes the driving force that motivates them to perform their role better than other groups of elderly, which is the role of helping their children/grandchildren have a better future.


This is further demonstrated through the following PVS excerpt.


When I was sick and taken care of, I often shared my experiences with my children/grandchildren, helping them to orient their work better. At those times, I felt that I could still help my children/grandchildren. If I could not help them, I would be considered a parasite.

Source: Male, 72 years old, poor health

In addition, identifying employed elderly people according to different social groups

The status of receiving social security also reflects that this variable is related to the job orientation for children/grandchildren (P < 0.05). Accordingly, the group receiving social security performed their role better than the group not receiving social security with the rate of admitting that it was "completely true" reaching 33.8% (Table 3.4).

Analyzing from the perspective of social identity theory and social role theory, whether or not they enjoy social security is not considered a factor affecting the role performance of employed elderly people, but these theories show that social security divides them into two separate social groups with a common social identity.

- separately. Accordingly, the group of beneficiaries of social security performs the role of career orientation for children/grandchildren better than the group of non-beneficiaries, reflecting their identity as being more concerned about the future development and careers of the next generations, and at the same time transforming that concern into concrete actions.

***

In-depth analysis of the position and role of employed elderly people in the family, the topic continues to mention "advising and helping children/grandchildren overcome difficulties". Similarly, the scale to measure the level of influence is designed in 4 levels, including: 1 is "Completely true", 2 is "Mostly true", 3 is "Somewhat true" and 4 is "Not true".

The survey results show that the majority of employed elderly people perform this role well with the rate of admitting that it is “completely true” reaching 35.0%, of which the corresponding rate of the group aged 70 and over is 41.7%, 6.7 points higher than the average. Correspondingly, the rate of abandoning the role of employed elderly people is also up to 9.6% and this rate in the group aged 70 and over is 1.7 points lower (Table 3.5).

This fact is also consistent with the research results of Le Thi Quy (2019). The author's explanation shows that the elderly play the role of a spiritual support to help their children/grandchildren.


overcome difficulties. The help comes from advice based on life experiences as a basis for children and grandchildren to compare. To a certain extent, they are really useful. Moreover, the elderly always care about each member of the family, which is the place where family relationships converge, so most elderly people always find ways to support their children/grandchildren. However, that does not mean that all elderly people perform their roles well, but there are also situations where many people actively give up that role, or do not have the capacity to perform it.

According to the theory of social identity, social position theory, social role, the above practical context shows that the existence of employed elderly creates an atmosphere of solidarity among members. Advice and encouragement to help children/grandchildren overcome difficulties is a catalyst for them to maintain solidarity and that is also the role they take on when in the central position. Cases that do not perform this work are cases of abandoning their role and that makes their value in the family decrease.

Table 3.5. Level of participation in counseling to help children/grandchildren overcome difficulties (Unit = %)



Completely

correct

Correct part

much

Correct

little part

Are not

correct

P


Age

60 - 64

39.9

28.6

22.6

8.9


*

65 - 69

24.9

41.6

22.0

11.6

≥ 70

41.7

33.8

16.5

7.9

Sex

Male

30.0

33.9

23.0

13.0

*

Female

39.6

35.6

18.4

6.4


Health

Good

16.7

34.8

40.9

7.6


*

Normal

36.7

35.8

19.2

8.3

Weak

46.3

27.8

5.6

20.4

Social welfare beneficiary

Have

50.0

24.0

14.7

11.3

*

Are not

23.9

42.8

25.0

8.3

Total

35.0

34.8

20.6

9.6


N (480)

168

167

99

46




Note: * = P < 0.05; ** = P< 0.1; *** = P> 0.1; Source: Survey results in Nam Tu Liem District, Hanoi, 2019

Observation of employed elderly people according to gender-differentiated social groups

The female group was found to be more active in providing advice to help their children/grandchildren overcome difficulties than the male group (the rate of admitting that it was “completely true” was 39.6% compared to 30.0%) (Table 3.5).

This seems to be in contrast to the survey results on the implementation of the role of career guidance for children/grandchildren mentioned above, because it shows that the male group plays a lower role than the female group in helping children/grandchildren overcome difficulties. However, this fact is explained by the employed elderly from the perspective of gender division of work when seeing that their children/grandchildren have grown up, which causes the role of male elderly to decline.

When children are in the stage of adulthood, encountering many obstacles in life, they need their father's help more than their mother's, because at that time, their father can help more. But when they are adults, they talk to their mother more than their father. Because at this time, the father only helps when he sees that the children are really in trouble, while the mother only needs to hear them complain, then worries for them, then guides, helps them, even secretly helps them, sometimes even yells at her husband for not caring about the children.

Source: Male, 65 years old, good health

Thus, according to social identity theory, social position theory, social role

The role of consulting and helping children/grandchildren overcome difficulties of the employed elderly is reversed because their awareness has changed, but this does not create a conflict of roles between the two genders. From being ready to intervene and help when children/grandchildren encounter difficulties, to only providing support when children/grandchildren really encounter difficulties, the male elderly gradually reduces their intervention role. Meanwhile, the female elderly continue to show concern and care for their children/grandchildren and are willing to advise and help regardless of the level of difficulty. This is the distinctive feature of gender difference between the two groups of employed elderly.

Similarly, observations of employed elderly people across different health-related social groups show that the group with poor health performs a counseling role in helping their children/grandchildren.


overcome difficulties more often than other groups (Table 3.5). The rate of admitting that it was “absolutely true” for this population group was up to 46.3%.

This reality is also consistent with the results obtained in the table of data on career orientation for children/grandchildren above. According to the theory of social identity and the theory of social position, social role, and social context, this shows that health limitations make it difficult for elderly people with poor health to simultaneously perform many different roles. Therefore, instead of spreading themselves equally to all roles, which can create tension and role conflicts, they choose the solution of making more effort/focusing on using life experiences to advise and help their children/grandchildren overcome difficulties. This activity is also a good way to help them gather their children/grandchildren around them, thereby feeling their own useful value, as well as feeling the care from their children/grandchildren. This is further demonstrated through the excerpt from the interview below.

Uncle Ho no longer had the strength to worry about everything. But whenever he saw his children in trouble, he always tried to tell them what to do. He just told them, and let them decide for themselves.

Source: Male, 69 years old, poor health .

Observation of employed elderly according to different social groups in terms of reproductive status

Social welfare beneficiaries show that the elderly beneficiaries perform the role of " counseling and helping their children/grandchildren overcome difficulties " more actively (Table 3.5). That is, they perform more counseling and helping their children/grandchildren than the elderly who do not receive social welfare, with the rate of admitting that it is "completely true" reaching 50.0%.

According to the explanation of social identity theory, social security does not affect the decision to perform the role of the employed elderly, but it divides them into different groups. According to this theory and the theory of social position and social role, the group that benefits from social security shows a more concerned identity about the lives of their children/grandchildren than the group that does not benefit. Therefore, they perform the role of advising and helping their children/grandchildren overcome difficulties at a higher level.

3.2.2. Participation in conflict resolution and major decisions in the family

In addition to the above-mentioned roles of guidance and consultation, employed NCT also play the role of mediating conflicts between family members, as well as making major decisions in the family. In their position, many people take on the role of


This role is good even though the increasing independence of children/grandchildren and the increasing equality between generations make some people feel their self-worth is decreasing.

To measure the role of family conflict mediation of employed elderly people, the study continued to design a scale with 4 different levels, in which 1 is "Completely true", 2 is "Mostly true", 3 is "Somewhat true" and 4 is "Not true".

Based on the above scale of measurement, it seems that the role of family conflict mediation performed by employed elderly people has achieved impressive results, with the rate of recognition as “completely correct” reaching 35.2%. Of which, the group aged 60-64 performed at the highest level, 7.1 points higher than the average, followed by the group aged 70 and over and finally the group aged 65-69 (Table 3.6).

This reality has been analyzed by many studies, according to which, the family is an emotional unit and the elderly often play a pivotal role in regulating conflicts. Specifically, according to the explanation of Le Thi Quy (2019), Phan Dai Doan (2010) or Nguyen Nam Phuong (2016), for the elderly, a happy and warm family atmosphere is always considered a top priority and they always strive to maintain that stability by regulating the connection between members. Carrying out this activity is considered one of the measures to strengthen the position and central role in the family of the elderly and the elderly have never taken it lightly. However, the increasing independence of children/grandchildren, followed by increasing equality between generations, has caused many elderly people to give up their role in regulating family conflicts, and therefore, many of them feel that their position and role are increasingly declining. This is further demonstrated through the PVS excerpt below.

Uncle Ho always wanted his children and grandchildren to be united. Only then would the family be warm and happy. His children and grandchildren were very obedient. They argued with each other because each had their own personality, but they never dared to hit or curse each other. Since his children and grandchildren moved out, he had less to worry about, but he also felt sadder because his children were more independent.

Source: Male, 70 years old, good health

Thus, according to social identity theory, social position theory, social role,

The above reality shows that the image that the employed elderly person presents in the family is a

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